
Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar Hollow World Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2011.05.01 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Megadeath
Originally by: Tanya Tarajaka
There's basically 4 camps to this argument:
1 - Those that ninja salvage, A valid tactic as described by CCP, the developers of this game.
2 - Those that don't ninja salvage or mission run. This group more than likely won't careless what the outcome is.
3 - Some mission runners, that see the wreak as part of the kill because after all they killed those pixels with pixel ammo (but ignore the fact that they recieved pixel ISK and pixel loot as payment as this detracts from their arguement). This group tends to cry when ninja salvagers arrive because they see them as nothing but vermin. These basement dwellers don't get out of mummys basement much and have a hard time understanding that this is a game of pixels. Said basement runners like to hoard pixel monies.
4 - Mission Runners, that understand that the salvage from wrecks does not belong to them. That if ninja salvagers are in the area they get fellow corp members to salvage for them during the mission in a noctis. Afterall this is a massive MULTIPLAYER online game where interacting is sometimes necessary and encouraged. These types of mission runner understand that this is just a game and if the developers say that those pixels aren't theirs then they respect that
Fixed.
BTW I'm in group 4.
Originally by: Tanya Tarajaka
Making the wreak part of the kill so that if someone salvages one of your wreaks then they are then flagged for PvP can only be a good thing. Someone salvaging someone elses wreak would flash red but in many cases I doubt the mission runner would do much about it, certainly not much different to what they do already. But some would do something about it, which means the ninja salvager could no longer be certain that they would not suffer loses, which is a very good thing.
Instead of all that, I suggest that CCP remove Concord from mission deadspace. Since you and He11fire want to pew-pew these ninjas its win-win for everyone.
Originally by: Tanya Tarajaka
I hear so much about risk and reward on these forums. With ninja salvaging as it is at the moment it's all reward and no risk. Now that does not sound very Eve like.
Neither is there any risk for mission runners running level 4 missions.
Originally by: Tanya Tarajaka
So like I said at the beginning of this post it is worth discussing this subject and this subject won't go away because there's a lot of people that just see it as another broken system.
Oh yes, it can be discussed by deluded mission runners who either don't understand the mechanics of salvage, or by those who think that by making enough noise will make CCP change the mechanism. But EvE isn't a democracy and the Developers are the biggest griefers out their. 
Probably the best post in this otherwise pointless and pathetic thread. I am also in Group 4 with Captain Megadeath. Most of the time if a salvager turns up in my mission, I just turn everything blue and let them have it. The only time I tend not to do this is on missions where the loot and salvage are all I get (ie drone missions).
Originally by: Johnny Dexter bombs everyone to Narnia
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